vBSEO.com Transition - An Open Letter to Juan Muriente, vBSEO CEO

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  1. Joeychgo

    Joeychgo Regular Member

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    Your wife emailed me - you and her started all this -- and by your own admission:

    SO, this part of the conversation should be closed until you have proof. Otherwise, the only one trolling here is you.
     
  2. Joe Ward

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    I think I'm giving you too much credit, expecting too much of you. My apologies.

    When I say that there is an absence of evidence available to show that Juan is employed by Topify at this time, that doesn't preclude other options, does it?

    There is a lot of very relevant data presented, worthy of discussion. It doesn't require any stifling or intervention from self-appointed moderators such as yourself.

    You're a forum guy and you're in some kind of rush to close down a thread that doesn't have anything directly to do with you. Since you've taken an unofficial role to champion the Topify defense in their scraping thread at TAZ, I'll assume this is just more of the same.

    If you want to try to refocus this thread in another direction, I'm ok with that. Let's direct it on getting a response on why Juan is listed as "President" on Corp Wiki data and uploading/reviewing Topify a day before it hits iPhone when it's been implied that he's a "friend", but not associated with the Topify startup.

    If you want to end this discussion, find a way to make that happen. Otherwise, leave the discussion up to anyone interested in getting a definitive answer, one way or another, rather than those who want to make everything get quiet.

    Unless you're another flat earther, I've presented more than enough information for anyone to know it's more than astronomically improbable coincidence.
     
  3. Carlos

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    For those of you who do not understand why people are bringing up this "hey, Juan is Topify president" proof, it's because CorporationWiki gets its data from the Secretary of [insert state here] website. In other words, whoever's listed as a title for that company, is documented. So, CorporationWiki is extremely reliable.
     
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  4. djbaxter

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    It appears than in your borderline world anyone who disagrees with you is a troll. How exactly do you define a troll, Joe?
     
  5. djbaxter

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    Evidence please? I don't take anybody's word for anything.
     
  6. BamaStangGuy

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    Guys this isn't a criminal trial. Joe has provided his side of the story. If it doesn't meet your burden of proof then good for you. Leave the thread then and move on with your life at Admin-Talk. We all get that Juan doesn't work at Topify right now and Ray has confirmed that. It seems all that Joe would like to know his what Juan's role was at Topify when he worked there. Joe has shown his side that Juan has worked there. Ray, Jack and Juan haven't mentioned anything about Juan's past there.

    You may also believe it is none of Joe's business whether Juan worked there or not. That is a great opinion to have. It still doesn't prevent Joe was wanting to know more in this thread. Some of you just like to be seen, I think. The past page or two is nothing but three people solving no problems and looking like idiots.
     
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  7. djbaxter

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    Thank you for your opinion, BSG. But apparently you have no evidence either. Now I guess there are four people looking like idiots. :D
     
  8. Joe Ward

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    I'm still here guys. I'll just skip over the redundancies from here forward. No sense extending a debate that doesn't look like it can be resolved between myself and the other two participants. It just decreases the signal to noise ratio unnecessarily. There is definitely significant data worthy of a deeper look, not to be summarily dismissed. However, it's up to each of us to decide how to interpret it. What's abundantly obvious to me may not be to some of you.
     
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  9. BamaStangGuy

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    There is evidence that he worked there before. It may not be enough for you but its is still evidence.
     
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  10. Carlos

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    Let me explain something to you. I've been a member of this site for as long as this site has existed. I put my reputation on the line every time I have to put out informative posts like the one I just provided to you. I'm not going to lie to you, or anyone else for whatever you think you can come up with. Either you take my word for it or you don't. But if you don't, do me a favor - don't play victim when someone else tells you the same thing I just said. There's a reason why Joe Ward liked my post. It's because what I'm saying is true.

    But if you want proof, here ya go...
    SOSWiki.jpg
    Topify's info is from Duns & Bradstreet, which is a credit database for businesses. Duns is quite reliable and is taken seriously.
    Gee. I wonder why Joe Ward called you a troll. You keep using the whole "provide evidence" or "you don't have evidence" like you're talking to a robot. Trolling is a state of attitude that the person wants to get reactions from the other person. In this case, you're trying to get a rise out of BSG, and me.

    Secondly, who are you to judge people? Nobody is "looking like idiots" for making their cases about what is being said. This is an attitude a lot of people don't like.

    You can either be civil with people, or you can walk out of that door. I don't think @Brandon will like what you're doing.
     
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  11. djbaxter

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    I wasn't calling people "idiots". BSG was. I was replying to his post just before mine. Spare me the sermons, please.
     
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    this entire thread is absolutely pathetic.
     
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    When someone can tell me what any of this has to do with forum administration I'll give a [****][****][****][****]. :D
     
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    When it started, it at least potentially had something to do with vBSEO. Now it's just mudslinging about Topify which has no relevance to anything.
     
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    I get the feeling this thread has already achieved it's main aim. You just said it. :facepalm:
     
  16. Joe Ward

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    Did the CEO of vBSEO abandon it and leave to get involved with Topify? If so, when?
     
  17. Joe Ward

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    I prefer to sling fresh water and soap. Clears things right up. Water is also transparent! :P
     
  18. djbaxter

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    Who cares? All that matters to vBSEO customers is has vBSEO been partially or totally abandoned. That has not yet been conclusively answered. If not, what can we expect going forward in terms of some sort of support for existing licenses. If so, are we going to be able to continue to use the current versions of vBSEO if or when the product is abandoned.
     
  19. Joe Ward

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    No conclusive answers yet. Hence, asking questions to get the aforementioned answers.

    Good morning, David. :)
     
  20. Lizard King

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    He cares because his issue has 0 relevance to vBSEO. he is just targetting Juan to find out if Juan had any income through Topify or not ( i have no idea if they have any connection or not ) and then generate some potential income for himself. It is all about money......
     
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