Is xenForo Dying?

BTW I never PM users if I delete a post, unless there's a very good reason to do so. The rules are there to be read, just as on any community.

 

I am but it's unclear if he's actually going to quit. I hope not.

 

Seriously, you can't give him *any* credit? Have you not seen all the support queries he answers like they were simple arithmetic?
Who's going to do that if he goes? There's Jake Bunce, who isn't even official staff, he's brilliant at it too but that's pretty much your lot.

 

Well putting it like that, if in fact there was only Steve and Wayne then. This is before my time at vBulletin, I only joined later. You could argue they had 35,000 members each to look after (70,000). Compared to 4,000 on XenForo Brogan is coping with. But still, when you get paid to do a job, money as an incentive makes things very different - compared to doing the same job for free. A massive humongous difference!!!!

 

I don't dispute any of that, but that isn't Brogan's fault and neither is it a reason he should quit.

That said, if it is making him feel how I suspect it is making him feel, then he may have no option. You can't let your health suffer like that.

 

You can't argue that really, they should be paying them something at least. Like you say, if your doing something for FREE as a favour getting too much hassle, it's only a matter of time before you'll get pissed-off with it all. There no incentive to keep putting up with it.

Give it Floris, he'll do it free no matter how much stick he gets. So long as he can claim fame being a mod and talks to Kier and Mike personally each day he's chuffed as a butty. He's been begging on all fours to be a free mod at XF from day one... :lol2:

 

Floris - ended-up with one of my vBulletin licences for free when he was staff at vBulletin, I was new and naive back then to see the little trick he pulled on me when offering my license for free posted on vB forums.

Which I wanted to go to a person "in real need of one, somebody with no license wanting one but couldn't afford it".

Posted thread then next minute he contacts me via PM at vBulletin (using staff position) right away, asking if he can give it away as a prize draw on his own forum he was running soon. Like a fool I said YES, then he asks me if it's OK to put license in his name, he need my permission to do it. Again like a fool I said Yes (not thinking) and now I known why. Nobody ever won that free license, he wanted it in his own name to use for himself and his vB forum network. No wonder he had so many free vBulletin licenses pulling stunts like that, the guy was a sly one. He never needed it in his own name to give away as a free prize draw, all that could have been done later with me transferring name ownership to winner.

That's why I've no love for Floris, he pulled a very sly one on me at the expense of that vB license not going to a person in real need of one.

 

I have to say, from what I see I think Brogan is stuck between a rock and a hard place. Kier & Co are probably telling him little or nothing, and the customer base is relentless at this point. He's taking all the heat and I would bet he himself doesnt completely disagree with the customer base. Situations like that can be frustrating.

 

The customer base right now has backed off big time asking anything for nearly a week. They did ever since Brogan posted that message saying all further threads asking questions about development will be locked. Things have been easy of late for him to be honest, compared to before.

 

Not sure it's such a wise idea to start doing that on XenForo with him in his profile, after all your a XenForo customer and they could decide to do you a "thick one". Just read what's been said by you both, I really don't know what to say to be honest.

 

Think that was a bit OTT to be honest Bob. Not really fair.

 

Sorry, but I couldn't resist it!