Answer to all those questions?

Well, it calms things down for a little while. First everyone gives time for it to be posted. After a week or two goes by with nothing, then people will start asking about it more forcefully. That will buy another week or two. So they might get a month out of it before the heat gets turned up again.

Ever played a shell game?

 

Read that XenForo was down today, then fixed and put back up again by "Mike" (of all people). Well, according to Brogan it was anyhow. Which is strange (coming from him), seeing as he's been hinting Mike has left XF for ages. But I suppose he'll deny ever doing that.

Hmmm, I get the feeling some are just playing games in their posts?

So... looks like Mike has not left XF after all, or has he, could he be an alien *giggles*? Otherwise, what would he be doing fixing the forum? Fun and games eh!

That can't be ruled out, glad somebody else has the brains to see that "well might" be the case. People will know if that IS the case in next 3-4 days, doesn't take longer than a week to answer a few questions. They've had them 2-3 days already.

 

I stand by everything I have posted.

Nothing I have posted has been inaccurate, contradictory or lies.

 

It is possible that XF is hosted on a server Mike has control of, therefore anytime the server is down, Mike would have to bring it up.

But like are we really micro analyzing to this level now?

 

Think XF is hosted on the same server as Kier's other site. That spacebattles one.

 

Just because mike may have quit developing XF doesnt mean he has no interest in it. Im sure he's still an owner at least.

 

But nobody has said outright that he's quit. We know Mike is still part owner of XenForo and listed as such. So I'm thinking two possibilities now, and one of them Mike has actually NOT left XenForo and is the one I think may be the case.

I'm wondering if XenForo was not bringing in enough to fund the court case and paying them wages. So both have took other jobs (hence why development has stopped), and now take what sales they can from XenForo still, and from both working other jobs to help out and pay themselves wages until court case is ended. Then hopefully if they win, things will change and more people will buy XenForo without fear of it being a bad investment anymore.

 

thats why I said "....MAY have quit DEVELOPING...."

 

Yeah, sorry about that. I'm not trying to contradict you. Just saying nobody to date has said Mike has left.

 

Looks like Mark and Joey was correct, a week later and no answers to any questions asked. Pfff...

 

You don't expect any answers at all do you? These guys can't even communicate with a meaningful update about the company or the script they provide. People are pretty delusional to expect anything from the Xenforo team that would require some involvement in their business.

 

Maybe your right, would seem that way now. Thought when Slavik posted the Q/A, he might have done it with the OK from KAM. You know, they was intending to answer some to try and get things more back on track.

 

I do not agree that it was a "ruse" - at least not on Jake's part. I can't speak for Slavik as I don't know him.
But, I do believe that Jake has a blind faith in Kier - much like I used to have - and fully believes (believed) that these questions would be answered.

 

Well he used to moderate at vBulletin didn't he before working with Floris, Kier, Mike and others. So he's not new doing the job, nor in knowing how they generally work things. That's why I don't buy he's "that naive", and showed that in how he dealt with Mark.B. He played him at his own game and slapped him down a peg or two in that thread.

 

I thought exactly the same thing to be fair from the start, but decided to give them the (benefit of the doubt) for a change. Why not, see if they could be honest and up-front with customers for once.

Now that a week has past and no answers have come forward from KAM, won't be long before things kick off again. Having pulled this little stunt to try quiet things down "yet again". They are trying to buy time until Jan, 2013 arrives and they get the court date verdict. Personally, I think it's a sham and an utter disgrace the way KAM are ignoring customers for all these months, yet still sell XenForo to unwary people. All I'm seeing is "arrogance" coming across.

Have a read of this from Page 4 onwards, mainly what AlexT is saying back to Jake Bunce. Then later Slavik jumps in trying to defend what XenForo can do over the new Euro Ruling about being able to resell digital software more than once. Both Slavik and Jake have no idea what they're on about, it's law that's been passed. Also, they have no right to say that anyway, they are just "volunteer moderator" and have nothing to do with the company itself and how it operates. They are not XenForo owners, so should keep their mouths shut on matters like that. XenForo cannot stop or hinder customers from reselling their licences more than once, they have to accommodate it now!

Link: http://xenforo.com/c...se.35434/page-2

Jake Bunce

AlexT

There breaking the law and need to be reported if this how they intend operating as an online business to the British trading standards. There are no ifs or buts about it, doesn't matter what's currently listed in their licence agreement (it's outdated and needs to be updated) to come in-line with that new law recently introduced in July 2012 to cover reselling of digital products more than once.

Jake Bunce - is quoting their "current licence agreement" acting numb breaking that law in what he's telling people.

Here is the PDF of that new ruling.

 

for sport, someone could suggest a 30 September ETA for having those questions answered.

more than reasonable.

 

Dam, forget the Q/A. That's old hat and doesn't take 40 days to answer about 10-15 questions at most. LOL!

What I said above linked to, is much more interesting. Jake Bunce is being asked some good questions by AlexT who seems to know his stuff, Jakes now skipping questions asked of him on purpose. In fact, Jake has lowered himself (as staff) into taking part in a petty argument with another customer - way to go!

http://xenforo.com/c...se.35434/page-5

AlexT

Good point if Jake is only supposed to be a unpaid volunteer moderator? What's he doing with that kind of private customer information access?

Jake Bunce

Smart arse reply there, it's turned into a real "Tit for Tat" now. But.. I've read Jake is answering "Support Tickets". If that's true, then that requires a person give their full home details if transferring a licence to another he gets access to view.

Which he does have, as he points out himself that thread earlier to Mark.B. :lol2: