I think its time for a vbulletin boycott

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  1. kev

    kev Regular Member

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    I think its about time for someone to call for a boycott of all vbulletin products. Anyone want to help spread this around the webmaster forum and blog circles?

    If you want to get the attention of a company, do something that impacts that bottom line.
     
  2. hotwheels

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    lol, i would love to boycott vbulletin.com......
     
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    Thats about the only way anything will change.

    Boycotts are proven, effective measures against anyone to get them to change actually, Especially when other methods don't work.
     
  4. hotwheels

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    So what steps are needed to do this?
     
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    First if I were to plan or partake in planning such a thing, the best thing would be to start it via private messages or a chatroom.

    I'm not an admin here, and while freedom of speech is welcomed here, I think planning a full out boycott could perhaps cross the line, if not in regards to rules, just out of respect to administration and owners.
     
  6. MjrNuT

    MjrNuT Grand Master

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    Post on all your sites?

    Should there maybe be a standard message?

    Should we be concerned that AA is a launching place for this....?
     
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    Personally, I dont feel AA should be considered a launching place for such tactics, as it could ultimately harm AA in the short and long term. :2cents:
     
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    That's exactly my concern. I didn't want to assume it would be ok, but the thread has started.
     
  9. Mark.B

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    I wouldn't join such a boycott, even if I hadn't resolved my issues with the company.

    I also don't believe this site is a good place to orchestrate these "resistance movements". AA is an admin help site, and whilst it must be seen to be providing a platform for free expression of valid opinions, it must also be seen to be neutral.
     
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    Mark, I'm not against you but before you had your privileges removed you used adminaddict to your advantage to vent your grievances and use AA as a platform to gain back all your access due to the amount of exposure which is brought to this site due to the vbulletin fiasco.

    Again, I'm not against you I just find that your opening reply is a little hypocritical considering you used AA for the exact same purpose.

    And btw, I agree with everything you said I just think considering the past it should have been from someone else that made that point across. :2cents:
     
  11. Mark.B

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    Absolutely, and I'd donthe same again, and I'd encourage anyone else to go down that same road if they feel it will be of benefit.

    That's the site acting as a neutral conduit between two parties. Something it does extremely well.

    It's not at all the same as being the starting place for an all out resistance movement though.

    No, I didn't, I just used the site as a neutral conduit to the company, as above.

    I'm not saying people shouldn't vent about vB here. I just *wonder* if starting a resistance movement on here is the right way to go. It kills the neutrality.

    Thank you. I always respect your opinion, as I do everyone's (I hope). We are all adults (well I hope I am one) who can have differing views without bickering.
     
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    Not to speak out of turn for the owners of AA, but I would assume you folks would consider anything the AA Community feels strongly about and act accordingly to what will be done (e.g., this boycott idea). It's not an unreasonable action to consider amongst the large community.

    I'm not in any way advocating that AA be the place to launch, but just wanted to drop the awareness. I'm sure you guys are aware of it and the AA community does need to be sensitive to it, professional, courteous, and purposeful.

    I thank Kevin for voicing the idea and furthermore, to what extent the AA Community and finally the AA Owners determine of it.
     
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    resistance movements??? Have you ever done anything political in your life? Have you ever helped someone running for a political office? Have you ever wrote a political opinion blog or article?

    The right to form an opinion, and the right to write about that opinion is a basic human right. There is nothing even close to "resistance movements" about having an opinion, or acting on that opinion.

    I do not even understand how someone could even compare a "resistance movement" to a boycott?

    I, as a consumer have the right to spend my money as I want. There are certain companies that I have personally boycotted for the past 15 years. If I wish not to buy a product from a company, that is my personal opinion and is in no way a "resistant movement".
     
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    Irony = using a vB based site to plot a boycott of vB

    Isn't a little late to be calling for this. Ya'll that bought in on the pre-sale gonna try and reverse the charges and then move your sites to something else besides vB?
     
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    What? How is boycotting Internet brands business tactics, a resistance movement? A boycott with a purpose will usually get results if enough people participate in it. My reason to boycott would be a couple reasons, 1st) allow customers to continue to choose the software that fits their needs. Forum software, blogs, project tools, etc, all as individual pieces. They too can still offer a suite which can be discounted to make it more attractive to potential buyers.
    2nd) Would be to stop the heavy handed tactics of banning customers for voicing their concerns. Like it or not, most people whom are doing this, are truly trying to get answers only to find themselves banned and sitting with a suspended license.
     
  17. Mark.B

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    I know that...I was banned myself. I'm not now though.

    I just don't think this site is the place from which to orchestrate a boycott.
     
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    vBboycott.com .net and .org are all available.

    Or at least were a few minutes ago. That would be the place to do it...
     
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    Those are great names gnatster, i hope someone does it and i will help all that i can.
     
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    You shouldn't be concerned, because I will make it clear right now: AdminAddict certainly will not be the launching place for such a movement; nor will it be its birthplace.

    I'm going to close this thread, because this is rather distasteful. I'm not saying I am for or against the idea, but this behavior is just way too sub-par to be allowed to continue on AdminAddict.
     
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