Admin Talk has Been Sold

Discussion in 'Admin Talk News' started by AWS, Aug 12, 2014.

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  1. Andy R

    Andy R Lurker Administrator Admin Talk Staff

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    thanks
     
  2. Superboy

    Superboy Most Likely, I'm Insane.

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    Wow, I really need to start coming on more :) I always miss the big news when it is first announced hehe.
    (I missed the original post that @AWS had brought AA originally lol)

    That said I don't think I am familiar with @Andy R But i do look forward to getting to know him and checking out his sites he has and seeing what he's all about :) I've been saying I truly want more variety when it comes to Admin Forums since as it stands we really only have ONE "true/de-facto" admin site sadly and the others are sort of just there. So I hope this new change brings in greatness and I'd love to see evolution :) I'm excited!

    And special thanks to AWS for his efforts here(As well as on Admin Addict, where i originally discovered him) and I wish you well on your endeavors!
     
  3. Andy R

    Andy R Lurker Administrator Admin Talk Staff

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    I just checked out Chaos Reads, I like the look and feel of your site. The background image is really nice.
     
  4. Superboy

    Superboy Most Likely, I'm Insane.

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    Ah thank you :) It's Xenfocus' Aperture Skin and It's growing on me :P

    (it would be GREAT if we could get a Dark theme here on AT. I mean I've been using this skin so much so i am used to it but Darker has always been preferred by me! :P)
     
  5. Dillon Lawrence

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    A couple of things:

    The association with TapaTalk may be an issue as many simply don't want to be associated with a company with such a poor attitude to security and support.

    You said you sold one of your forums to a company/ad-agency, and they could monetize the site 'better'. Was it not a concern that this could have ruined the site, due to a larger focus on monetizing the site, rather than content/the forum itself? I imagine the owners simply purchased the site and had very little care for it. What's to stop that happening here?
     
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    Superboy Most Likely, I'm Insane.

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    that's actually a good point, especially given that this is the second time admin talk has been sold in less than a year.

    what concerns me is are we as a community going to let at potential be wasted where the site is barely active or will there be plans to rejuvenate the community. It seemed as if under Brandon's reign the site was way more active than it presently is.
     
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    Forums that keep changing hands like this often die and continue changing hands until the last webmaster decides selling it just isn't worth the hassle.

    Just pointing out the elephant in the room :eek:

    Anyways, welcome, to the new admin, best of luck to you. Hope you have some plans.
     
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    The problem is that its adds nothing new, when you look on a site like this you can find other sites that have the same. You need dedicated people that add content that is relevant to a forum like this or people that help other people. These sites need to be more then forum only to make a profit to keep open but there just forums.
     
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    I'd like to say a couple of things regarding the change of ownership if I may.

    Firstly I'd like to thank @AWS for maintaining this site. The three test forums you provided here proved to be very useful and saved me the horror of having to invest in a vBulletin 5 licence so thanks for that. I wish you well for the future :)

    Moving on to the new ownership; it appeared to me that there was a brief but noticeable increase in activity when the handover took place. That activity seems to have diminished as quickly as it came. Is there any particular reason for that? It just seems a bit odd.

    Secondly, and this does concern me more, someone seems to have gone out their way to make these forums less user friendly. The navbar no longer sticks to the head of my browser, the top of the page function has been switched off and tagging seems to no longer work. Why remove all that functionality?

    In addition the search bar is now obscuring someone's ad. If that were mine I would be furious. If it's no longer being paid for shouldn't it be removed?

    I'm sorry to sound so negative but it seem odd to make such detrimental changes to a site if you are planning on maintaining it.
     
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    I disagree that they are "detrimental changes". They were not intentional, regardless. With the upgrade to 1.4 Beta 2 the style was reinstalled, which reverted some settings. I will revert it back to the way it was before, while we figure out our goal for the new direction (and possible look) for the site.

    Things don't just get better over night and we are aware that this will be a long term project. There is a lot of good information here and a lot of good members. I plan to invest quite a bit of my time into making this place a great, fair resource for forum owners and community managers.
     
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    Dos this mean that all the members will be treated equally, and that I will no longer be discriminated against and will be allowed to copy and paste from other websites like every one else can, without my posts being deleted?
     
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    Every issue will be handled on a case by case basis should it arise. I can't comment on how things were handled in the past.
     
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    As we now have a new owner, can I take it that as long as it does not violate any rules I can copy and paste in the same way that every one else can? and can I now use the name of a certain member (He who cannot be named) without being banned for it, as has been the case so far?

    I would appreciate the site being run in a fair way as you have said you will try to do so, and that everyone will be treated equally.
     
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    Personal attacks on people won't be tolerated. I think a lot of us are tired of going on admin forums and reading the same attacks on certain people over and over again. If you have a problem with someone then it should be dealt with privately or they should be added to your ignore list.
     
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    Just a query, why am I receiving this message
    I have 1,057 posts, 399 likes and 762 trophy points. And definitely over one week.
     
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    Rearranging some things. Its an outdated notice that I need to replace.
     
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    I can understand this, yet my copy and paste was about VB/IB NOT about any one person and just about most if not all members have posted similar comments, yet I was singled out for doing the same as the majority were doing.
    I agree with the part about personal attacks yet I was called a troll several times and the attacking posts against me were allowed to stay.

    All I am asking for is that actions are applied equally and in a fair manner, I do not think this is too much to ask for.
     
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    Thank you for your quick reply. :thumbsup:
     
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    Andy R Lurker Administrator Admin Talk Staff

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    Tapatalk had some growing pains this past year as they switched from paid to free. I agree they released some features where the they stumbled over the default settings and the security update notice arrive tardy. That being said, I've communicated with Winter (CEO) and he's aware of these issues and 100% committed to bringing value to participating Tapatalk communities. They understand it's going to require a symbiotic relationship with their partner forums for everyone involved to be successful.

    In the past year Tapatalk had to manage a massive amount of changes and they made some mistakes along the way. Going from a paid app and cutting off your revenue stream was a big decision for them and meant they had to focus on raising some money to survive. Along with running the day-today operations of Tapatalk Winter participated in a tech accelerator program to help position the company for outside investment. Part of that process was moving the company from Hong Kong to the United States and tons of other little details. During the same time they released a major version upgrade (version 4) which introduced lots of new features but also had the inherent bugs that any new set of code contains. I am fairly certain that Winter is happy to have that all behind him and grateful to the folks who can understand how much work it took for them to accomplish what they did. Yes, there were mistakes but looking forward they can focus more on the product and support while not being distracted by fund raising.

    In 2013 we used branded Forum Runner apps for each of our sites. In 2014 we switched to Tapatalk's BYO apps and suffered through the same issues everyone else did. Now as we approach 2015 we are looking at moving away from having so many apps for each site and moving many of them to simply be inside Tapatalk. Some of our apps rank highly in the app store and we get tons of new members (and posts) via those apps. Others don't rank anywhere in the app store and cost more to maintain then they generate. As Tapatalk grows we plan to move the sites who did not perform well in the App Store into Tapatalk in hopes that being part of that network will help those communities to be discovered and grow.

    Yes, that was a concern. I've never been fond of "flippers" and take our role of managing communities very seriously. Online forum communities are very special places and need to be treated with care. In the case of the forum I sold in 2007, I was comfortable with the plans of the buyers. They actually reduced the number of ads on the page since they were able to get a much higher CPM. They also invested heavily in content creation (articles) and did a terrific job turning "just a forum" into a more well rounded experience. In case you are curious, the name of the site is www.TheFashionSpot.com, I'm sure you can see the evolution on Archive.org.

    Basically I was making money with AdSense and a few other other ad networks. They were an ad sales agency and sold direct so they got to charge higher CPMs and retain 100% of the revenue (no revshare). So they were able to make an offer that motivated me because I didn't have the same tools at my disposal to monetize the site. They've done a great job and I feel the members were well taken care of.

    That's because I mentioned the ownership change to some forum owners I know. I've asked them to post here if they get a chance.

    One thing I've noticed about forum management communities is that they should not be ranked based on the quantity of posts, rather the quality of posts. I also own BigBoardAdmin.com which is a small private forum where about 50 forum owners hang out. There are times when posting activity is very low. That's okay, there might not be a lot to talk about.

    This was because of a change that @BamaStangGuy made. He responded to this above.

    @BamaStangGuy, can you remove that ad?

    As for how we will manage Admin-Talk, we'll get some Community Rules posted soon. In the meantime you can read an example here. I don't have any baggage from what happened in the past and each case will be handled on a case-by-case basis. One thing that is for certain is we won't be banning people without communicating with them first. I feel strongly that the proper way to manage online communities is to outline the rules, then communicate with members when they break a rule and try to resolve issues so they no longer break rules moving forward. Once we are acutely aware that the user understands our rules and they continue to violate them then we enforce a three strikes policy. On the third strike we move to issues them either a part-time or full-time ban.

    Let me know what other questions or concerns you have.

    Andy
     
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    I've removed the ad on each style I could find. Hope to have a custom style soon. Never was a huge fan of UI.X personally.
     
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