Are admin forums deader than disco?

I just wish there was something new to talk about. The vb talk is getting more and more like turning on cspan and watching democrats and republicans fight, lol. I don't say that to offend anyone. I too was a big fan of VB back in the version 3 days. VB was the first paid software I went to. I still have several vacant licenses from them. But its obvious that VB cares nothing about the bashing of their software, or at least IB doesn't.

 

While I am unsure of what my age has to do with the topic, I understand where you are coming from. Though I never used the software(And Lord Knows you all have definitely made it known to steer clear away from it), it comes to a point where people are literally beating a dead horse.

The VB5 discussions have been dead for so long and yet it is the same people regurgitating the same thing over and over again across so many admin forums.

At the end of the day I see it as such, VB/IB or whoever pissed a lot of people off. I get that. They truly screwed over people and their latest release is an utter abomination. You got pissed on so to speak and pissed off.

But there comes a point and time when it really is time to let it go. A lot of the people truly are quite knowledgeable and me being 18(as you pointed out), I do observe from you all but it is kind of annoying seeing Grown men sort of just sit around gossiping about VB constantly.

It was just like during the trial on Adex, where there literally was nothing to discuss about other than "Xenforo and how KAM weren't communicating". It was interesting at first but after awhile it got old.

I'd hope there is more for us as admins and webmasters to discuss other than a software that none of use and have moved on from.

It's like going on and on about an ex you broke up with. The relationship is over, time to move on.

But that's just how I see it. I could be wrong.

 

If the vocal converts didn't complain about it so much, you might be stuck with it right now.

At the end of the day, a lot of these guys are running forums as their business or a significant portion of their income. All that complaining is a warning to others, and the fact that people are still signing up new vBulletin boards and getting upset tells me a consistent effort is needed.

Also, for me, as a vendor, I pay very close attention to the marketshare, as it tells me where to focus my efforts. 6 months ago, I had no idea XenForo has picked up so much steam. I'm blown away by how many old clients I have from my early vBulletin days that have converted to XF.

Lastly, there are a few equally vocal vBulletin enthusiasts, some of which are paid by IB, that cause just as much noise in the other direction. Balance is needed.

I'd just consider yourself lucky, and tune it out if it's annoying. No harm done.

 

It's like those Smoking commercials...I get it. They are bad. They suck and are dangerous. I don't need to see the commercials EVERY single commercial break.

LOL that's how it feels when you go to Any admin forum(Adex, AT or TAZ) where you click new posts and there are multiple topics about the same thing(Vbulletin sucks xD)

Even before Vb5 and before I got into admin, I never actually liked Vbulletin as a member really. I'll join a site that uses it, but I've never really cared for the software as a member so I didn't want to ever own a license.

 

There is plenty to talk about. These are exciting times in terms of software development, addon development, migrations, technology advancing, startups, crowdfunding, new players in the software market, events on major communities like reddit, post-Snowden privacy concerns. Its a shame that most of it stays under the radar. Luckily we have techcrunch and other newsblogs to catch most news, not admin forums.
Understandably though, as its a lot to keep track of.

 

You know a site is struggling with debatable subjects when you see threads like "What are you reading right now" What did you have for tea" What was your 1st Auto" Which song are you currently listening to" etc etc

 

Is that the reason? So what has Paul or Mark done that would have warranted a banning? There must be something right- otherwise you really weren't being honest in your statement...

 

Bollox, it shows poor quality.

 

It shows very poor quality. A few threads like that I could possibly condone on my big board, but certainty not as a continuous flow of useless noise. its exactly the absence of such noise why Google sends me millions of visitors each month.

 

So like I suspected... nothing really.

 

A spot on observation. Until the VB/IB crew actually listen to the legitimate complaints of their customers and act to address them then they will continue to hear about it from those affected.

I am sure that many would be happier singing the praises of a good software and organization, but alas they will not listen and so continue to pay the price for their actions.