51 members on vb.com

vs 63 on ipb.com. wow.

Still a lot more guests on vb.com though, but still...

 

vb.com has a 15 minutes cookie timeout where ipb.com has a 30 minutes cookie timeout.

I like ipb.com to rise up, though.

 

51 or 63 members online, those are some really low numbers for the size of the community.

 

that's what I was thinking as well.
I would expect 150 or 160 members on either at any given time

 

It was one of the quietest times during the week.


But it is now Monday in the usa and there are about 115 members on vb.com, and 126 on ipb.com, and a whole lot of guests on each.

totals: 934 @ vb.com, 766 @ ipb.com. 10 months ago the total on ipb.com was under 400 *I think*.


I've been watching vb.com, the posting has slowed tremendously.

 

I'm guessing it's because people are tired of 4.0 and all the bugs :lol:

 

I wonder what IB is going to do to maintain revenues in QTR #1 of 2010. I would think after the big pre-sale that things would have slowed pretty significantly. That's just a guess on my part though.

I was thinking they might run a sale or do something to increase license sales as I would think they'll have a pretty tough time hitting their '09 numbers.

I guess we'll find out in a couple of months when they release their Q1-2010 financial results.

 

78 at vb, 84 at ipb...

Actually 'digital pointes' posts in the 'big board' thread have been fascinating. I think it shows the level of knowledge needed to actually make v4 work.

I would think they will continue to sell online advertising, and continue to receive licensing revenue from Autodata. This is from the q4 financial results:

So the presale, which was a huge event for vb.com, added about 7% to q4 revenue, and was in the noise for the yearly results.

 

I used to post more frequently, but the censorship, combined with the lack of answers did it for me. I don't think I should make a point again and again just for the sake of it, and asking for a roadmap gets a little old after the third unsuccessful try.

Also, I do not feel a part of the community anymore. I used to feel that I should contribute, either with plugins, translations, answering some pre-sales now and then and even lingering through chit chat, but since the latest developments like the pre-sale I have been feeling it more like "them" (IB) and "me" the client, and no longer like "us" the vbulletin community.

I honestly hope that changes. vBulletin played a major role in the development of my site. I had strong plans to deploy vBulletin 4.0 as soon as it came out (I was even ok with fixing some bugs by myself and keeping up with the frequent updates), but the product is so bad I had to turn back and stay with my 3.8 version... too bad because I wanted to give my site an upgrade from what feel like a 2-year old forum software.

 

vb.com 74, ip.com 84

vb.com was down for about 4 hours today and no one even mentioned it on AA and not even on vb.com that I can find. EDIT - I just saw the announcement Steve made yesterday regarding being off line today.

And Steve mentioned the style vars are changing in 4.0.4, which means, as far as I know, all work people have done on previous v4 versions will have to be re-done.

 

^^ one of the reasons why we didn't bother with 4. So much stuff still left to be sorted.