Where in the world is the vBSEO Team? Mystery solved... at Topify. :)

Seems about right, especially from a 43-year-old male.

 

So little respect for freedom of speech.

 

I can understand anyone not wanting to be here if they are getting personally attacked.
It's uncalled for and really didn't add to this discussion at all..
We can only moderate the forums so far. I guess we expect adults to act like.. well.. Adults!

 

He brought it on himself. Look at the way he presents himself everywhere. He's antagonistic, one-sided, close-minded, and overall a giant troll.

 

4 posts and you haven't said a nice thing about anyone. You admittedly came here solely to respond with a personal attack against one person. Like @Brandon said, personal attacks are uncalled for and add nothing to a discussion.

 

Feel free to make use of the ignore button if there are post you wish not to see.

It's not that hard

 

I've said nice things about people that are here, on other sites. I didn't come here solely to respond with a personal attack, but to provide backing support to someone who was getting handed the same ole BS from the same ole person. I've seen it over and over again from Joeychgo. Anyway, I'm done here. Didn't come here to cause problems so I'll be on my way.

One more note to add...I don't find stating facts to be personal attacks. Just calling it like I see it.

 

There are many strong personalities here, who make their living or have their passion seated in online communities. This forum world is filled with harsh criticism and bullying. What I said was an opinion that I feel is very well founded, and I'm justified in indicating it.

What were the great personal inflictions?

He's not contributing much value to the thread's core idea?
He's biased due to his relationship with some of the parties, guiding his apparent lack of objectivity?
He's antagonistic? That's not accurate?

If you'd like to know what happened here today, here's your video metaphor:



Sometimes bullies and trolls are shocked when they meet their match.

Sometimes even mature "adults" dole out criticism. Haven't any of you been watching the news this week?

If the standard community protocol is being highly respectful without stepping on the toes of trolls that are stinking the place up, that creates a community dynamic that "caters to them". Now that may cause lots of post topping, angry response posting, etc, that makes a forum look more busy - but it certainly doesn't add to the quality of the content and discussion being created.

And that's what I'm referring to when I talk about a lowering of the signal to noise ratio. Right now the last several threads are all about the sensitivities and demands of a user who many people recognize as a troll.

He wins, and it's a messy win, just as I suggested.

 

Not everyone is giving Joe Ward a hard time. In fact he has the courage to come here and state his opinions and this shows strength of character, Juan chooses not to post, so the inevitable question is why! Surely it is not too hard to post in your own defence, IF you are on the up and up.

This is understood that he may feel he has to defend his employer, and he has been given Kudos for helping some people.

The problem arises when he chooses to treat VB customers like idiots. This is entirely of his own choosing, as I would assume that it is not a directive of VB to treat their customers in this way.

When a staff member abuses his authority and continues to do so, then it is not unexpected that the customers/members will react.

The running away by people like BirdOPrey5 and Paul M instead of facing the problems and putting things right, shows a lack if intestinal fortitude and are the acts of cowards, as is their hiding behind their mod buttons to deceive and mislead the customers/members of VB.org etc.

IF they were doing the right thing by their customer/members, then they would have no problem with defending any criticism, but as things are currently, they cannot defend their actions, so they hide.

I am not a mod or admin on VB, I am not a techy and I do not even have their advantage of being an orange member here, but I have no problem in posting my opinions as I have nothing to hide and I do not need to run away, so why do they feel the need to hide?

 

I find the concept of a troll that can't live along with other trolls as ridiculous. If we are to get rid of all the trolls from this heavenly refuge, then what will be left?

 

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
That's a good one.
I have to call out @Paul M for this.

 

I think a troll, in the sense of a good devil's advocate, is a good counter balance for a community. However, there has to be checks and balances. If there is outright abuses, then that should be moderated.

However, if it's just strong critique it may add value to the discussion when defended.

My position here is that there are a few guys not really adding much value. They have on some occasions done so with their questions or challenges, but have largely fallen into a pattern of strong antagonism - which I suspect is either a developed behavioral pattern for them online, or something they get a kick out of doing to spur on my responses or because we've been jabbing each other in the ribs with light pokes now and then.

Joey is welcome to stick around and contribute. It won't change my assessment of how valuable his contributions are, unless his actual contributions change in substance. But that's just my opinion. He has an audience of more than just me to communicate to.

He's essentially banned himself.

 

There are trolls then there are snipers.

 

What's the definition of a forum sniper?

 

Forum Trolls are looking for attention to themselves or their particular interest. Forum Snipers just come for the kill.

 

I guess they're meaner then. Just hit and run? Because if it's a series of messages, it more likely to be trolling anyway. For some, all stimulus, is welcomed, negative or positive.

 

Joe, hope you are banned cause im sure I seen Topify co founder Joey Chicago surfing around.

On the topic of Topify, I wonder how the product is doing. Does anyone have any updates? Joey?

 

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