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So then exactly what horse do you have in this race? You say you have nothing to do with Crawlability/vBSEO (removed in 2009). Yet here you are 4 years after the fact saying you are still co-owner. Well if you're still co-owner then that makes you a couple of things, most importantly it makes you still responsible for Crawlability/vBSEO's actions (or inactions), regardless if you got fired from a company you co-owned in 2009.

Seriously, any chance of repairing the damage done by Juan/whoever is pretty much out the window, and really this thread didn't/isn't helping anything. I'm honestly a little perplexed about it. It seems to have reverted to 2009 however and big marketing and buzzwords are abound in it, with things like "transparency" and blah blah blah.

So umm, where were you the previous 4 years?

 

I guess you would prefer to be completely in the dark. Good on Ilia for posting about what's actually going on.

 

This is clearly a self serving attempt at something larger. What the end game is for Ilia and Joe is unknown at this point, but I guarantee it has something to do with money.

Edit: And I'm outta here, this isn't the place to junk up with this drama and family dispute gone public. If I wanted that I'd just visit TMZ every day or something.

 

Incorrect. I told you I'm the owner, and I'm attempting to intervene. It might appear like more of a pony to you than a horse, but I'm in the race.

Whether you like my approach or not, as a vBSEO customer, I'm the only advocate you have right now. And I understand why you're frustrated even if it happens to be falsely directed at me right now.

If you don't believe, please go post a request for info at vbseo.com and let me know when you get a response.

Since you don't like buzz words like "transparency", that's fine. Whatever way you'd like to describe "letting everyone know what's up" is fine with me.

For the past 4 years, I've been doing whatever it takes to support my family.

 

It's serving you too. Now you have information that you did not have before.

Please continue to question my motives and dig deeper. I prefer everyone to challenge me to be fully transparent. There is that word again. Sorry.

 

I never heard of your name or seen you posting on Vbseo ILIA and I certainly don't appreciate the spammy email I received as it is not a Vbseo announcement. You are in no legal possession to send emails to Vbseo customers and i don't want to receive any emails from you again.

You sound bossy to Andres when you are not his boss nor pay him. Get some legal advice if you have any rights.

Do you have a signed contract between yourself and your brother that you are the co-founder and has 50% of company share? If you do, please share it with us. If you don't, then you have no right to talk about Vbseo.

You might be angry that you're kicked out and not making $$ out of Vbseo. This seems to be like a family drama and you shouldn't be going around making this ridiculous video and posting around. Have you even developed Vbseo ? Are you a developer or were just managing Vbseo in the customer care department before your brother kicked you out for whatever personal reason. Obviously, from your attitude, it tells me a lot and you don't come out as professional either.

 

And you have the right to your opinion. She was only replying to those that made posts. Technically she does not need legal advice, she may need a lawyer but in the end Juan is breaking the law period.

Ilia was the business manager of vBSEO so of course you wouldn't see her posting on the site. But she has posted and you can see her account: http://www.vbseo.com/members/ilia-muriente/

Now on your comment regarding her professional manner, unfortunately she has more of a professional manner than anyone. She is asking for the support of vBSEO owners to persuade Juan to step down and reinstate all of her access. She could have went off on a lot in this thread but Ilia has maintained a professional attitude. This isn't family drama, the fight didn't start over them being family, it started over the business.

 

Exactly, just a manager. Her brother gave her that possession and he took it back from her. The email i received did not came from vbseo.com but came from iliamuriente at gmail.com I don't want to see customer's emails being hijacked by a non vbseo staff.

Also if this is her aim, she has no right to persuade Juan to step down. It is his company, he has the right to sell it or continue it. Really that is all it is to it.

 

It does. I wish it had taken less time to reveal the truth. I haven't been dealing with a very cooperative party.
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I know exactly how you feel. Sadly when one decides to expose the truth on the internet, it tends to upset those who are lying and trying to hide the facts and they usually then mount a smear campaign that unfortunately some are conned into believing.

Stick to your guns, as the truth will become apparent even to these doubters in time.

 

http://www.vbseo.com/members/ilia-muriente/

It's an announcement about vBSEO. Please click unsubscribe.

Sorry, but how would you know what I may or may not do on behalf of my company? As you said, you haven't even heard of my name before.

No problem. Please click unsubscribe.

If he is paid, he's paid by my company.

If he's being paid and not fulfilling his responsibilities:

1. I am not pleased with that.
2. I would like him to get back to work.

Our company documents are in a mess, like everything else.

That's a fair statement. Of course I am. That and many other things. What would you expect?

I am not a programmer, nor is Juan. FYI - Businesses are not run entirely by programmers. We hired an extremely talented programmer do code and maintain vBSEO, our websites, and admin systems.

That's fair. Granted, this is not the ideal way to approach this matter.

However, I am communicating openly including responding to critical posts like yours. I'm honest, and I'm disclosing to customers what nobody else has been willing to admit.

This isn't about popularity. It's about sharing information.

Since you arrived at this thread, you know now some very important information about the status of vBSEO regardless of what you think of me personally.

 

It does. I wish it had taken less time to reveal the truth. I haven't been dealing with a very cooperative party.

Thank you Al. I'm ok with criticism. I can imagine how this raises confusion until we take the time to clarify things. That's why I'm here.

Some of the comments here are a little over the top, but that's not unexpected at all. Every one of us here are experienced in the forum world and we know how it goes.

I know my customers are frustrated. I completely empathize.

Whatever happens, I can feel good about the fact that customers now know the status of the company and are not left in the dark any longer.

 

I don't know any status of Vbseo as it is not an official Vbseo announcement.

 

And we hope that now that everything is in the open, he'll begin to cooperate and do what's right for our customers.

 

Ok, you can wait for an "official" announcement. If I'm able to gain control of vbseo.com, I will be posting one there.

http://admin-talk.com/threads/vbseo-com-transition-an-open-letter-to-juan-muriente-vbseo-ceo.43693/

 

How much more official do you want it? Coming from Ilia and viewing the forums over the years, I have seen vBSEO declining. Supposedly a support staff is there but in a thread regarding the support staff, many are still posting ticket numbers with no attention to them. But all I can say is that your welcome to your opinion and I can see how you would see this as not official but at least the email was sent out and now I'm better informed. I had no opinion of Ilia until I did research of my own, like I stated before, she has my support 100% no matter the outcome. I'm sure Ilia may be able to get Juan to send an "Official" announcement. To you I say, I know Ilia appreciates your replies and I do too, it really helps understand what current customers are thinking.

 

So is it your company or not, and can you refund my purchase? You say it's not, but it is, and you say you don't work there, but yet you added vBSEO to your newly registered user account that is less than 48 hours ago.

So again we already assumed vBSEO was dead, and with your communication we're still left exactly where we were 24 hours ago. No official word from anyone that has any ties to vBSEO. The only thing we have to go on is a screenshot of a private conversation/message your brother/business partner sent to you.

No, it's not falsely directed at you. If you own the company you are responsible for it's actions. You just can't leave a company to rot for 4 years with an imbecile business partner, then come back out of no where and expect shit to be all roses and people blowing sunshine up your ass.

 

I co-own it.

Not until Juan restores my account access, and if there are funds still available.

You "assumed" before. Now I'm telling you what both of the co-owners know, and what the CEO has said. You didn't know that before.

If by "official" you mean a polished announcement, posted at vbseo.com, no. When is the last time you saw anything official posted at vbseo.com?

I have shown you a communication from the current CEO and my co-founder saying he wants to end it.

In the entirety of this thread, I've talked about the difficult challenges in this situation and uncertain outcomes.

What roses did you think I was expecting, other than maybe from the guy who said I was cute?

I live in Florida. I have enough sunshine.

I'm joking with you a little. Listen, I want you to know I'm "trying" to figure things out. I know you're upset. If I spent money and didn't receive the product, I would be outraged too! That's what I'm trying to prevent from happening here.

If I could process your refund I would. Until I have access to do so, I can't.

I wish I had something better to tell you.

Please post a request at vbseo.com asking them to restore my access so I can process your refund asap.

 

If Im reading this correct are some saying vbulletin.com the new version 5.0 is dead and that the 4.x version one day will also be gone.They still have acces to vb 3.x so thats not going anywhere.But if vbseo is gone Im removing it from my websites