Are admin forums deader than disco?

TBH, the only infatuation I see on any admin forum is with Xenforo....there's no infatuation for VB these days and IP board, thankfully isn't overexposed as much as XF is.
Though I do agree there are many software out there that ARE Improving or up & coming and it is a shame we only have to hear about one.

What bugs me about people and software on admin forums is they feel the need to trash something yet they are holding onto an opinion of the software from 2-3 years ago. Why complain about something OLD as if it is recently something you experienced.

(Case in point about people who constantly have something negative to say about IE...If the last version of IE you used was anything BELOW IE 10, you don't have much room to talk as you obviously don't know if/how the browser has improved...same with IPB, when someone made a comment about the notifications and how IP board was copying xenforo lol)

 

If people don't like something they're going to complain about it and they absolutely right to do so.
Similarly if they like something they are likely to say so as well. Again they are absolutely right to do so.

 

You have to admit, Sehun, you are just as bad as any XF fan boy with your comments. I can't even count on both hands how many times you've posted this same thing on multiple admin sites. We get it, you don't think XenForo isn't all it's cracked up to be. But for many of us, it's a solid, stable, user-friendly, well-architected software. And we're still going to f*cking talk about it. The fact that a lot of other software don't have such a strong positive voice says a lot.

 

That is not true in the least. You make it seem like as if I bash the software(I don't and I've even said again, the software IS great for me and a viable option should things with IPB ever go south and given how my opinion changes, that very well could happen and I'd own XF in the future. Never know).

What I have said negative things about, actually has very little to do with Xenforo but more so Vbulletin. Since you seem to be "Aware" of my posts on various admin sites(I mainly only use Atalk and TAZ...so all of 2 then), you'd be aware that I more so complained at the fact that admin forums are turning into fanboy central where there are constant threads bashing this software & that software(Vbulletin for example) or the redundant threads about "SO & So has moved from Vbulletin to Xenforo". I even said THAT very same thing in this very thread. Again not bashing the software as you try to make it sound.

I can also argue that the fact about positive Voices that if the software is so great that we wouldn't need the constant "This forum migrated to xenforo" or "Vbulletin's market share is dropping and XF is rising" threads we see on every forum. So those positive voices you refer to seem more like people who feel they have something to prove.

 

Thing is though... does it really matter? I don't exactly see all these forums buzzing with activity because they use one forum software over another - "points finger at admin forums recently".

 

I've seen a few instances where you've posted about how XenForo lacks features and isn't as great as everyone makes it out to be. So yes, it is true. I never claimed you were bashing the software, I claimed you make these same posts everywhere and thus, are just as bad as the XF fan boys you claim to dislike.

You've popped up on AdminExtra with similar posts, as well. It seems like you're trying to dictate what should and shouldn't be discussed on admin sites. Obviously, a large forum switching from one software to the other is VERY relevant and SHOULD be discussed on admin sites by those who want to discuss it. If you're tired of reading the posts, STOP READING THEM. It's so easy, even a caveman could do it. I tend to stay away from threads that don't interest me or I just don't care about. I'm not going to pop into such threads and tell people they shouldn't discuss it because I'm tired of reading it. Again, I didn't claim you were bashing the software.

In actuality, many of those positive voices are those who still have something to be enthusiastic about, not feeling they have something to prove.

Don't get me wrong, I dislike the XF fan boys, too. Just like I disliked the vB fan boys when I was a customer. These people feel nothing wrong can be done by the software vendor and it's really quite ridiculous. Regardless, none of this has anything to do with the point of my post.

 

Does what really matter?

 

What you run as a board.

 

To some people, it is interesting to know what others are running, especially the bigger boards. To others, not so much.

 

I am not trying to dictate anything. In fact, I encourage you to read my original post in the topic.
http://admin-talk.com/threads/are-admin-forums-deader-than-disco.50992/#post-577901

People can discuss what they wish on the site, I have no control over that nor would I WANT to control that. In regards to the topic at hand we are currently posting in, however, I explained why a lot of admin sites are dead or dying slow deaths.

The same people(coincidentally Xenforo supporters) are members of the same exact forums(TAZ, ADex, AT, etc) and post the same exact things over and again. That was my complaint. Not that people were praising Xenforo(I don't care). But the fact that is all that we as admins, apparently, have to discuss.

Furthermore, a large ENTHUSIAST forum switching over to a software is not relevant at all? I could see if this was 2010 when XF was new and the underdog and Large enthusiast forums switching over was Cool and relevant.

it's 2014. We've long since established big forums can run on Xenforo.

Let's be real. It has nothing to do with relevance nor does it have anything to do with what SHOULD be discussed.
Let's keep it real...it's merely a

"Ooh, Vbulletin lost yet another big site to XF...." thread.

My opinions of XF aside...the software is great and attractive, if not overhyped and overexposed and lacking features and personally I feel it is overpriced for the stuff it does lack. But that's neither here nor there.

I am not telling anyone what they can and can't discuss but it is a shame when I log on AT or Adex, most of the topics(excluding off-topic ones) usually have something to do with Bashing VB or praising XF. As I said in my original post

"Diversify & Evolve....."

 

If that's what you so wish to do. It would at least be a change of pace from the Overindulgent Xenforo threads and Vbulletin bash threads, even if an exaggeration.

 

I don't want to sound at all disrespectful here, but it does slightly come across as though you're attempting to tell people what they can and cannot discuss, based entirely on your own preferences. That's never going to work.

If people don't like a product, for whatever reason, they should post about it.

 

So in that case, why do you keep going on the defensive when people bash vBulletin. Because same thing as you said their really, if they don't like it they're entitled to voice it then. But when they do, you accuse them of jumping on the bashing bandwagon.

 

No I don't. And besides, I never said people shouldn't reply in kind if they feel differently.

 

Seriously, what is there to discuss on an admin forum?

"Oh hey, php 5893.490 is in development it adds new XXXX features"
"Oh hey look forum software XX is sucks, XXXX is so much better!!!"
"oh hey look at my WP blog, and let me spam you with affiliate links to make 238405923798 dollars per day"

Really, i think the niche is dried out on topics, it's the same stuff over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.

 

At this point, is that a far fetched assumption? It's been about 2 years since changes and plans were announced for IPB4, and besides I think once people realize that they're switching to the IB license model of you get it all, or nothing (meaning gallery, nexus, blogs, whatever) a small mutiny might occur there too.

 

It seems like there's just too many admin forums out there and with not too many offering quality artists like some of the successful ones offer. Great content wins user's hearts and without good content, your admin forum won't do too well. Admin forums strive off of administrators and webmasters becoming members and posting questions while receiving answers. Thus, creating more discussions on the forums. I also think when the XF and vBulletin lawsuit, a lot of admin forums started to lose traffic.

Also, how many admin forums actually go out their way to advertise their forum to the masses? Word of mouth can only grow your site so big.

 

Yeah, things did quiet down after the lawsuit ended. It was causing discussion one way or another at the time. There's was a lull on admin forums after that ended.